Query Post #1

[chocolateboxmod]

Nominations continue, and we have some queries.

In terms of clarifications:

• American Beauty - you have nominated individual characters. Please nominate relationships.
• Mesopotamian Mythology - We think "Inanna | Ishtar (Sumerian Mythology)/Persephone (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore)" is a crossover - if so, please nominate into Crossover Fandom.
• Shoujo Kakumei Utena | Revolutionary Girl Utena - We are not sure if "Protagonist (Utena - Someday My Revolution Will Come)/Sanjouin Chigusa (Shoujo Kakumei Utena)" is a crossover or not. Could the nominator please help us out?
• Star Wars Original Trilogy - could the nominator please confirm that Fennec Shand appears in the original trilogy? If not, please move to crossover.
• DCEU - we have accidentally merged this with Arrowverse. Could we please ask your assistance in identifying which nominations should be in DCEU?
• Critical Role (Web Series) RPF & Geek & Sundry RPF - is this the same thing? There are a lot of similar nominations.
• Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling & Cursed Child - we have a separate nomination for Cursed Child as well as Cursed Child characters nominated into Harry Potter. We are considering merging them together given the CC nominations in HP.
• Dimension 20 - we have a nomination for "Dimension 20", "Dimension 20 (Web Series): Fantasy High". Merge into Dimension 20 or can the Dimension 20 nomination be split up?
• Critical Role - we have a nomination for Critical Role as well as Critical Role: Campaign 3 (Web Series) - merge into Critical Role or can the Critical Role nominators split by campaign?

The following fandoms have been nominated without relationships, and will not be approved until relationships are added:

• ermenwyr trilogy - kage baker (novels)
• La Passe-Miroir | The Mirror Visitor - Christelle Dabos
• ギラギラ | Gira Gira - Ado (Music Video)
• 내 동생 건들면 너희는 다 죽은 목숨이다 | Touch My Little Brother and You're Dead (Webcomic)
• Redwall Series - Brian Jacques
• Ender's Game

Comments

[fencesit]

Hello! I'm the Critical Role Campaign 3 nominator. I've only come to the fandom pretty recently and haven't finished Campaign 2 or even touched Campaign 1, and since the campaigns are separated by both geography and time it seemed easiest to me to nominate the third campaign separately...but I wouldn't mind everything being combined if the other nominator(s) want that.

[kimaracretak]

+1. I have yet to nominate, but I'm only interested in Campaign 1 and was absolutely going to nominate under just that fandom.

[chocolateboxmod]

Thanks for that! The Critical Role nomination(s) also contained multiple Season 3 relationships, so it was easier to merge yours in rather than try and split them all back out.

[eccentric_hat]

I don't know if there will be nominations for multiple Dimension 20 campaigns, but there were last year, and I lean toward splitting them up. They're totally different universes. There's no campaign that's just called Dimension 20; every story within the show has its own name.

[chocolateboxmod]

There absolutely are two nominations for Dimension 20, one for "Dimension 20 (Web Series): Fantasy High" and one for "Dimension 20 (Web Series)".

In terms of the latter, these are the nominated characters:
Antiope Jones/Danielle Barkstock (D20)
Evan Kelmp & K Tanaka | Dream & Sam Black | Samantha Butler & Whitney Jammer (D20)
Evan Kelmp/Whitney Jammer (D20)
Fabian Aramais Seacaster/Riz Gukgak (D20)
K Tanaka | Dream/Sam Black | Samantha Butler (D20)
Katja Cleaver/Ostentatia Wallace (D20)
Kingston Brown/Pete Conlan | Pete the Plug (Dimension20)
Sam Nightingale/Zelda Donovan (D20)

Is there one (or two) campaigns the list of characters above can be linked to?

[svgurl]

These are the ones I've spotted that should be in the DCEU:

Alfred Pennyworth/Diana (DCEU)
Arthur Curry/Mera (DCEU)
Arthur Curry/Orm Marius (DCEU)
Barry Allen/Iris West (DCEU)
Bruce Wayne/Clark Kent/Diana (DCEU)
Bruce Wayne/Diana (DCEU) and Bruce Wayne/Diana Prince (DCEU) are duplicates
Bruce Wayne/Slade Wilson (DCEU)
Clark Kent/Bruce Wayne (DCEU)
Clark Kent/Lois Lane (DCEU)
Diana (Wonder Woman)/Steve Trevor (DCEU)
GQ Edwards/Rick Flag (DCEU)
Helena Bertinelli/Dinah Lance (DCEU)
Rick Flag/Floyd Lawton (DCEU)
Rick Flag/Harleen Quinzel (DCEU)
Sionis/Victor Zsasz (DCEU)

Also I don't know if it matters one way or the other but DC's Arrowverse would fall into the TV category as it is a canonized tag instead of DC's Arrowverse (TV) which I noticed you are usiong and has gone into the uncategorized section.

[chocolateboxmod]

Those should be fixed up now!

[ermingarden]

I'm not the nominator, but I can confirm that Fennec Shand does not appear in the Original Trilogy.

[awriternow]

I'm the nominator!
I suppose my question is, where is best for Leia/Fennec to go then. I am happy to move it to Star Wars - All Types, if that's the best place, but I wasn't sure since the instruction asks to separate out. Glad to do what is best.

[visarded]

Heads up, Chun Ok & Eun Bil & Man Ok & Sil Bi (Don't Touch Me) has a typo, Eun Bil should be Eun Bi

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed now!

[lamiacalls]

Hello! I nominated "Fabian Aramais Seacaster/Riz Gukgak (D20)" under Dimension 20 (Web Series).

They can be split up, but a few of the campaigns take place in the same universe (Fantasy High, The Seven, Pirates of Leviathan, Escape from Bloodkeep), though only the first three of those share characters. The already-nominated Zelda Donovan, for instance, appears in both The Seven and Fantasy High. Though, her ships tend to be different in either campaign. But the other campaigns (Unsleeping City, A Crown of Candy, Magic & Misfits etc.) are in completely separate, discrete individual universes.

I have a preference for not splitting them up. No bad comes from keeping them together, i.e. even within the universe, it's easy to only pick characters and/or ships that only appear in one campaign, if you haven't watched others; the AO3 tag for the fandom is Dimension 20; I generally feel the fandom is pretty multi-campaign, in that most fans watch all campaigns, and, on a purely selfish level, it gets a bit out of hand for requests/offers for this show when they've been split.

But the other nominators might feel stronger and I'm happy to bow to their judgement. This show has gotten a lot bigger than when I used to request it regularly (there were only 2 main campaigns then!), and I might be out of touch with the fandom at large at this point.

[eccentric_hat]

I think people are less likely to have seen all the campaigns now, when there are so many of them. They crank out a lot of content, faster than I for one manage to keep up with it! I was thinking it would be easier to request and offer if characters were sorted under their own campaigns; the relationship list could get very mixed-up and chaotic otherwise. However, it wouldn't be any more chaotic than the relationships listed under Original Works, and since this isn't Yuletide (no rarity requirements for fandoms, and "or" rather than "and" matching for offers and requests), there's no systematic reason they need to be separated.

(I don't think Escape from the Bloodkeep takes place in the same world as Fantasy High, though? FH's world is called Spire, and EFTB's is called Elna. I think Tiny Heist and Unsleeping City got confirmed to take place in the same world at some point, but it would still feel like a crossover if any of their characters met each other.)

[shadaras]

Typoed nomination: In 山河令 | Word of Honor (TV 2021), "Han Ying/Zhou (Word of Honor)" should be "Han Ying/Zhou Zishu (Word of Honor)"

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed now!

[slightweasel]

If Loki TV is under Marvel Cinematic Universe, then Kid Loki (Loki TV) & Thor (MCU) should be under that instead of Crossovers. I nominated it that way initially because the nomination instructions said that MCU was for characters seen in the movies, which no longer appears to be the case.

[chocolateboxmod]

We've moved that across now! We're sorry about the rules changing, and if you link me your nomination slot I can give you a free fandom nomination to make up for it.

[this_is_my_sock]

Critical Role RPF and Geek & Sundry RPF are not the same thing. There may be some crossover (depending on what people are nominating because CR started on the Geek & Sundry channel and some of the cast has appeared on other G&S things), but they are different fandoms.

[chocolateboxmod]

Thanks for that - we've sent them through separately.

[mswhich]

Just noticed a dupe:

Peter Parker/Tony Stark (Marvel Cinematic Universe) and Peter Parker/Tony Stark (MCU)

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed now!

[elsajeni]

There are a couple of duplicates (and typos) in Dracula - Bram Stoker (Novel 1897):
Jonathan Harker & Lucy Westerna (Dracula - Bram Stoker)
Lucy Westenra & Jonathan Harker (Dracula - Bram Stoker)

Lucy Westerna/Mina Harker (Dracula - Bram Stoker)
Mina Harker/Lucy Westenra (Dracula - Bram Stoker)

"Westenra" is the correct spelling.

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed now!

[kameikophoenix]

Duplicates:

TV Shows:

Suid Game (TV):
Jiyeong/Kang Saebyeok (Squid Game TV)
Jiyeong/Kang Saebyeok (Squid Game)

Cho Sangwoo/Seong Gihun (Squid Game TV)
Cho Sangwoo/Seong Gihun (Squid Game)

Thanks!

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed now!

[sirvalkyrie]

Loki/Thor (MCU) has wandered into Marvel comics.
Clark Kent & Jonathan "Jon" Kent (Superman & Lois TV 2021) & Jordan Kent & Lois Lane has wandered into DC Comics. Should be Arrowverse.

[chocolateboxmod]

Those should be fixed now!

[essayofthoughts]

With Critical Role it depends on if it's different Campaigns only (the Campaigns thus far all exist in the same world, with some characters overlapping between campaigns) while the Oneshots are more likely to be independent - some use different RPG systems, some are in different worlds, etc.. All the Campaigns - including EXU - all happen in the world of Exandria, so perhaps split into two might work? "Critical Role (Campaigns)" or "Critical Role (Exandria)" with "Critical Role (Oneshots)" for non-Exandrian Critical Role nominations?

And now I've typed "Critical Role" so many times it looks like gibberish to me.

Harry Potter & Cursed Child

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I would prefer to keep the books and the play separate, as the plot of CC is frequently disregarded by the main fandom writers. But I wouldn't be terribly upset if you decide otherwise, just as a clarification why I nominated them both (I assume there are other nominators, though, who might have completely different reasons).
Ginada

Re: Harry Potter & Cursed Child

[chocolateboxmod]

We have decided to keep them separate - thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[reflectedeve]

Unrelated to the queries above, a few things in the tag set that caught my eye:

Duplicates under Marvel (Comics):
Irene Adler | Destiny/Raven Darkholme | Mystique (Marvel Comics)
Irene Adler/Raven Darkholme (Marvel Comics - Claremont Era X-Men)
Kitty Pryde/Rachel Summers (Marvel (Comics))
Kitty Pryde/Rachel Summers (Marvel Comics)

Should Hawkeye (Comics) be merged with Marvel (Comics)?

These are all nominated as separate fandoms:
Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon | Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon
Sailor Moon (1992 Anime)
Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon | Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon (Live Action TV)

I was the nomination for most of the relationships under that first one, which I had intended to be a sort of "all media types" fandom - however, I do think it makes a lot of sense to make the live action version separate. The other two are a bit confusing, though! I’d suggest either a) combining the anime & manga versions all into one fandom, or b) separating things out into “1992 Anime’ and “Manga/Crystal". (I’d personally prefer option a, but I know a lot of exchanges go with option b!)

Thank you so much for all your hard work!

[chocolateboxmod]

We've removed the duplicates except for the Irene Adler/Mystique one as one is arguably just the Claremont run rather than everything ever, and merged Hawkeye into Marvel Comics. In relation to your Sailor Moon question, that will be taken to our next queries post.

[sadlikeknives]

Typo in The Witcher (TV): Fringilla Vigo/Yennefer of avenger burg (Witcher TV)

The correct spelling is "Yennefer of Vengerberg"

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed now!

[regency]

Some duplicates I found under "Wheel of Time (TV)"
- Lan Mandragoran/Moiraine Damodred/Nynaeve al'Meara (Wheel of Time (TV))
- Lan Mandragoran/Moiraine Damodred/Nynaeve al'Meara (WoT TV)

- Lan Mandragoran/Nynaeve al'Meara (Wheel of Time (TV))
- Lan Mandragoran/Nynaeve al'Meara (WoT TV)

Not a duplicate, but "Clark Kent & Jonathan "Jon" Kent (Superman & Lois TV 2021) & Jordan Kent & Lois Lane" is currently showing up in the fandom for "Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman", which is a show from the 90s. Jon is only in the 2021 show.

[chocolateboxmod]

Those should be fixed now!

Utena

[sirvalkyrie]

Not my nomination.

Someday My Revolution Will Come is a visual novel set between episodes of the Revolutionary Girl Utena anime. The protagonist of the game is unnamed. Sanjouin Chigusa is the antagonist of the game. My guess is the first part was making it clear that they meant the unnamed protagonist in the game and the second part was just the fandom disambiguaton.

A Few Tag duplicates

[tavina]

Hi!

I found a few tag duplicates in the uncategorized fandom "AITA: Am I the Asshole for Perpetuating Ethnic Stereotypes about Jorts (reddit)"

"Jorts & Pam" and "Jorts & Pam (reddit)" appear to be duplicates of each other.

"Jorts & Closet Door (reddit)" and "Jorts & Door" also appear to be duplicates/very similar. I'm pretty sure that there is only one door mentioned in the reddit post, but I can double check to make sure that there aren't any other doors besides the closet door (though I suppose nominator of "Jorts & Door" may be asking for fic about Jorts and doors in general).

Re: A Few Tag duplicates

[chocolateboxmod]

Those should be fixed now!

[zdenka]

Another duplicate, in 魔道祖师 - 墨香铜臭 | Módào Zǔshī - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù:

Jiāng Chéng | Jiāng Wǎnyín/Wèi Yīng | Wèi Wúxiàn (MDZS)
Jiāng Chéng | Jiāng Wǎnyín/Wèi Yīng | Wèi Wúxiàn (Modao Zushi)

Wandering tag:
Jiang Cheng | Jiang Wanyin/Wen Qing (Módào Zǔshī) has wandered into The Untamed.

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed now!

[pegasus143]

Some duplicates I noticed:

In Voltron: Legendary Defender:

Allura/Lotor (VLD)
Allura/Lotor (Voltron: Legendary Defender)

Keith/Pidge (Voltron: Legendary Defender)
Keith/Pidge | Katie Holt (Voltron: Legendary Defender)

In Dangan Ronpa - All Media Types:

Sonia Nevermind/Tanaka Gundham (Dangan Ronpa HPA)
Sonia Nevermind/Tanaka Gundham (Dangan Ronpa)

[chocolateboxmod]

Those should be fixed now!

[slippery_fish]

DCEU - we have accidentally merged this with Arrowverse. Could we please ask your assistance in identifying which nominations should be in DCEU?

Hah, I was about to ask about that because it happened with my noms.:D

https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/9097/nominations/226828

Those should all go into DC Extended Universe.

DC's Arrowverse (TV)
Relationships

✔ GQ Edwards/Waylon Jones (DCEU)
✔ GQ Edwards/Rick Flag (DCEU)
✔ Rick Flag/Harleen Quinzel (DCEU)
✔ Rick Flag/Floyd Lawton (DCEU)

[chocolateboxmod]

I think we've moved those across to DCEU - may I ask you to check?