Tagset closed and outstanding issues

[chocolateboxmod]

We've closed nominations for the tagset! Currently we're at 1,617 fandoms with 12,711 relationships. Please check the tagset carefully for any duplications, migrations, or tags that just don't belong in a fandom at all. We need your fandom knowledge to help make this tagset as good as it can be!

If we have missed fixing up a tag or fandom, let us know! There's been a lot going on on our side and it's entirely probable we've missed something. We do ask for patience, as we are really struggling to load the admin console, but please let us know if we have forgotten or missed something.

Finally, some outstanding queries.

Fate series
These are the nominations, exactly as they appear on our side:
Fate/EXTRA
Enkidu/Gilgamesh (Fate)
Enkidu & Gilgamesh (Fate)
Enkidu | Lancer/Gilgamesh | Archer
Enkidu/Gilgamesh (Fate/EXTRA)

Fate/Grand Order
Enkidu & Gilgamesh (Fate/Grand Order)
Enkidu | False Lancer/Gilgamesh | Archer
Enkidu | Lancer/Gilgamesh | Archer (Fate/Grand Order)

Fate/strange fake
Enkidu & Gilgamesh (Fate/strange fake)
Enkidu | False Lancer/Gilgamesh | Archer (Fate/strange fake)

Fate/Zero
Enkidu & Gilgamesh (Fate/Zero)

Do Enkidu and Gilgamesh appear in all of these games? And we think that there's duplication inside each fandom set, but when we tried to work out whether you could have a Lancer and a False Lancer we got very confused. Help?

Kamen Rider
Do you want these nominations kept separate or merged?

Marvel
Could the nominator please let us know if you mean Comics? We think you do, but we're not sure.

Mary Poppins
Do we want books or AMT?

Namesake
Original Character(s)/Original Character(s) - Just checking, is this what you mean?

Original Work
Foster Father/Previously Abuser Foster Daughter Who He Grooms - Do you mean "Abuser" or "Abused"?

Power Rangers
We have nominations for the entire franchise and separate titles. How do you want this dealt with?

Pretty Brunet Deer Person Trying To Seduce a Sulky Reaper (Tumblr Post)
We think this is what you mean. Are you nominating the illustration, the story, both, or something else entirely?

Supergirl
We're getting conflicting advice, and so we'd thought we'd put it up for a clear discussion. Is Supergirl part of DC Arrowverse or not?

The Hobbit
We have nominations for the AMT and the movies - do you want these merged?

Twilight
Do we want Books or AMT?

Unassociated Relationship
Thrawn | Mitth'raw'nuruodo/Frina | Chaf'rin'asyr - Which Thrawn series does this belong to?

We Are In Fics Universe (WAIFU)
Is this what you mean? We're not sure.

X-Men (Movieverse)
Which timeline do you mean?

Comments

[sirvalkyrie]

Supergirl
Yes, Supergirl is part of the Arrowverse. Flash appears in the first season of Supergirl. In the second season of Supergirl she participates in a teamup crossover and as such she appears on an episode of Arrow, Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow. She then later is in a musical episode of the Flash. The third season has another crossover between Supergirl, Arrow, Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow which includes introducing an alternate universe Kara who is married to an alternate universe Oliver. The current season just had another crossover called Elseworlds which crosses over Flash, Supergirl, and Arrow, is a backdoor pilot for Batwoman, and introduces a number of new characters in person or in name, such as Lois Lane. They have also introduced versions of Alex Danvers and James Olsen native to Earth-1. Supergirl is 100% part of the Arrowverse and has been since the crossover episode of the Flash in season 1. It should not be split off from the Arrowverse as it would artificially force ships into the Crossover section and create a lot more work. If someone is only interested in Supergirl related ships they can select ships that only include characters native to the show. I did nominate for this fandom.

Power Rangers
I am one of the nominators for Power Rangers. Except for the movie, I think they should be merged.

EDIT
Clark Kent/Lex Luthor (Smallville) is showing up under DCU (Comics).

[chocolateboxmod]

We've fixed up the Supergirl and wandering Smallville tag; we'll wait to hear from the other Power Ranger nominator.

Fate series

[paleomnesis]

Enkidu appears in a flashback in the manga of Fate/Zero, but is only referenced in the anime. Enkidu also only appears in a dream/flashback in Fate/Extra CCC. He's not a servant here, so if you choose to include him, I'd keep:
Enkidu/Gilgamesh (Fate)
Enkidu & Gilgamesh (Fate)

Actual appearances are in both Fate/Grand Order and Fate/strange fake. Technically, he's a False Lancer in Fate/strange fake and Lancer in Fate/Grand Order, so I'd delete the False Lancer entry in Fate/Grand Order.

Re: Fate series

[chocolateboxmod]

Those should be fixed up now, and we'll see what we can do with making Fate/Extra CCC a canonical.

[exchangebench]

A migration:

"Carmilla/Hector (Castlevania)" has wandered over to "悪魔城ドラキュラ 闇の呪印 | Castlevania: Curse of Darkness" from "Castlevania (Cartoon)." Carmilla doesn't appear in Curse of Darkness.

[chocolateboxmod]

That should be fixed up now!

[morbane]

I'm sorry - I see two of my nominated relationships are wandering.

I nominated Alice Cullen/Bella Swan and Bella Swan/Victoria under Twilight - All Media Types, as I saw that that was what was approved at the time. I see that they are now also appearing under Twilight Series - Stephenie Meyer.

I would be happy with either the book or AMT, but would prefer not the movies alone.


(My nominations link:

https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/2730/nominations/98333 )

[thecatmod]

Since we're not sure if the other nominator(s) also requested this, we'll leave it in the tagset for now!

Edit: word choice.

[thedevilchicken]

It's not exactly the end of the world, but the Dredd (2012) tags have a spelling issue (maybe autocorrect!) in the disambigs.

Cassandra Anderson & Joseph Dredd (Dread 2012)
Cassandra Anderson/Joseph Dredd (Dread 2012)
Cassandra Anderson/Madeline Madrigal (Dreadd (2012))

Those should all be (Dredd 2012).

[thecatmod]

Thank you! We have limited access to the mod console (refuses to load) so we'll see what we can do but at this stage we'll prioritize fixing spelling errors for characters. We appreciate the comment though!

[blue_eyesgirl_fic]

I nominated Kamen Rider Gaim pairings (here's the link https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/2730/nominations/98063).

I don't believe the series are supposed to all be the same universe and especially as far as Gaim and W go (the other Kamen Rider nomination I can see) they don't even have a crossover movie so I'd prefer they were kept separate.

[chocolateboxmod]

Those should be through now!

[thrasonical]

Thrawn | Mitth'raw'nuruodo/Frina | Chaf'rin'asyr

is from "Campaign (Podcast): Star Wars", which looks like it already has a disambiguated copy of the tag, anyway.

[thecatmod]

Thank you! Should be fixed up now.

Strange Duplicate

[(Anonymous)]

I believe that "Charlie Hunnam/Rami Malek (Papillon RPF)" is a duplicate of "Charlie Hunnam/Rami Malek (Papillion (2018) RPF)" under the Papillon (2018) RPF section, and I don't know where it came from (I only nommed the second one).

- AlsaTronic

Re: Strange Duplicate

[thecatmod]

Thank you! Probably another nominator ^^ I have now deleted the other one.

[ultra_fic]

Just had a quick skim through all the fandoms that I have any knowledge on and found two or three things...

There's a duplicate tag in Movies, under 'Calamity Jane (1953)' - 'Calamity Jane/Katie Brown (Calamity Jane (1953))' and 'Calamity Jane/Katie Brown'.

Under 'Rogue One: A Star Wars Story', there is 'Cassian Andor/Boba Fett (Rogue One)' - I'm not aware that Boba Fett was in Rogue One and a quick Google search suggests he actually wasn't.

Also, I don't know if this matters but there's both 'Mary Poppins - All Media Types' and 'Mary Poppins (Movies)' listed, the former of which contains only two relationships that are also under the latter. I know there are books and there are movies, but I just thought I'd point out the potential overlap in case it hadn't been spotted. Obviously, any actual decision-making is in the hands of the nominators and the mods, and none of my business :)

[thecatmod]

Thank you! The Calamity Jane duplicate should be deleted. After review, the Cassian Andor/Boba Fett relationship was also deleted.

Regarding the Mary Poppins fandoms, we'll be adding it as a query to see if nominators have any additional information.

[klutzygirl]

There's a few duplicates in DC's Arrowverse:

Clark Kent/Lois Lane (Supergirl (TV 2015)) is a duplicate of Clark Kent/Lois Lane (Arrowverse)

John Constantine/Ray Palmer (LOT) (Arrowverse) is a duplicate of John Constantine/Ray Palmer (Arrowverse)

Ray Palmer/Mick Rory (LOT) (Arrowverse) is a duplicate of Ray Palmer/Mick Roy (Arrowverse)



And in Angel: The Series, Faith Lehane/Wesley Wyndam-Pryce (Angel: The Series) is a duplicate of Faith Lehane/Wesley Wyndam-Pryce (AtS)

[chocolateboxmod]

Thanks for letting us know! We'll remove those once the mod console loads.

[nwn]

Hi, just realized that epic seven (mobile game) is in uncategorized fandoms, shouldn't it be in video games category? Avengers Academy, another mobile phone game is listed in video games too.

[chocolateboxmod]

Unfortunately, that's something that only AO3 tag wranglers can sort out. Neither of us are tag wranglers, so we will have to wait and hope for the best.

[meretricula]

This isn't my nom, but I noticed in DCU (Comics) you have both Tim Drake/Kon-El (DCU (Comics)) and Tim Drake/Kon-El | Conner Kent (DCU (Comics)). I don't think there's a version of Kon-El who isn't also Conner Kent (although, this being comics, I guess it's possible).

[chocolateboxmod]

The duplicate should be removed now.

[scribblemyname]

I nominated Enkidu/Gilgamesh (Fate) and you approved it and it immediately wandered into related fandoms in the tagset, but I nominated it under strange fake and it's synonymous with False Lancer/Archer tag for them. I didn't nominate any of the /Extra or /Grand Order ones though and I didn't nominate them under Zero where Enkidu does not appear.

[chocolateboxmod]

We think we've fixed up the fate tags - could I ask you to look and see whether that's what you were referring?

[wino]

I think the option for (shippy) Enkidu/Gilgamesh disappeared from Fate/Zero?

[chocolateboxmod]

I don't believe it was nominated, but we'd be happy to insert it if the nominator could come forward.

[seerofrage]

Found some duplicates!

Under Critical Role (Web Series):

Delilah Briarwood/Raishan/Anna Ripley
Delilah Briarwood/Raishan/Anna Ripley (Critical Role (Web Series))

Keyleth/Anna Ripley
Keyleth/Anna Ripley (Critical Role (Web Series))

And under Final Fantasy XIII Series:

Hope Estheim & Noel Kreiss & Snow Villiers (FFXIII Series)
Hope Estheim & Snow Villiers & Noel Kreiss (Final Fantasy XIII series)

[chocolateboxmod]

Those duplicates should be removed now!

[plaid_slytherin]

I noticed a duplicate in The Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien.

Aragorn | Estel/Boromir (Son of Denethor II) (LotR - Tokien)
Aragorn | Estel/Boromir (Son of Denethor II) (LotR - Tolkien)

The first one has a typo in Tolkien.

[chocolateboxmod]

Those duplicates should be removed now!

[radioqueen]

I noticed a duplicate in The Magnus Archives:

Trevor Herbert/Julia Montauk/Gerard Keay
Gerard Keay/Trevor Herbert/Julia Montauk

[chocolateboxmod]

Those duplicates should be removed now!

[spring_gloom]

Duplicates:
TV Shows > Lewis (TV)

James Hathaway/Laura Hobson/Robert Lewis (Lewis (TV))
James Hathaway/Laura Hobson/Robert Lewis (Lewis)

James Hathaway/Robert Lewis (Lewis (TV))
James Hathaway/Robert Lewis (Lewis TV)


TV Shows > Stargate - All Media Types

Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran (Stargate - AMT)
Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran (Stargate SG-1)

unless my eyes are playing tricks, I'm seeing two identical in a row:
Samantha "Sam" Carter/Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran/Cameron Mitchell/Teal'c (Stargate - AMT)
Samantha "Sam" Carter/Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran/Cameron Mitchell/Teal'c (Stargate - AMT)

[chocolateboxmod]

The duplicates should be removed now!

[zdenka]

Duplicates in Greek and Roman Mythology:

Andromache/Hector (Greek & Roman Mythology)
Ἀνδρομάχη | Andromache/Ἕκτωρ | Hector

Hades/Persephone (Greek & Roman Mythology)
Ἁδης | Hades/Περσεφόνη | Persephone

[chocolateboxmod]

Those duplicates should be removed now!

[fhionnuisce]

I double checked mine before the closing but I will again now. I wouldn't be good at tracking down wandering tags but I can say if any disappeared from where they were

[desertvixen]

Doubles in Anne of Green Gables: Diana/Anne, Walter/Una, and Ken/Rilla.

[chocolateboxmod]

Those duplicates should be removed now!

[izayoi_no_mikoto]

Found a duplicate in バチカン奇跡調査官 | Vatican Kiseki Chousakan | Vatican Miracle Examiner (Anime):

Roberto Nicholas & Hiraga Ryouta (Vatican Miracle Examiner)
Hiraga Ryouta & Roberto Nicholas (Vatican Miracle Examiner)

[chocolateboxmod]

That duplicate should be removed now!

[snickfic]

Gamora/Peter Quill is nominated twice for the MCU.

[chocolateboxmod]

That duplicate should be removed now!

Rownd a Rownd

[kaz_shirakawa]

The relationship names in the *Rownd a Rownd (TV)* fandom are as I nominated them: just first names, no disambiguation.

Should they get a “(Rownd a Rownd)” in parentheses at the end for context? Or will AO3 tag wranglers decide whether that’s needed later?

And/or should family names be included?

For example, can “Lowri/Philip” stay as it is or should it go to one of “Lowri/Philip (Rownd a Rownd)” — “Lowri Walsh/Philip Parry” — “Lowri Walsh/Philip Parry (Rownd a Rownd)”?

I’m not even sure of all of the characters’ family names, though I could probably dig out at least some of them if necessary.

Re: Rownd a Rownd

[thecatmod]

Generally full names are preferred as sometimes there are similar names/tags out there. At this stage, the Rownd a Rownd relationships tags for the exchange (which can be different from canonical tags) will not be changing as the mod console is only sporadically loading.

Disambiguations have been added to a lot of relationships as tags sometimes wander/get unassociated in an exchange.

Neither of us are Tag Wranglers so I'm not sure about naming conventions. AO3 does a FAQ page on tags though: https://archiveofourown.org/faq/tags?language_id=en

[ideare]

one of the power ranger nominators here.

personally, i wouldn't want them merged, but if it makes things easier, then that's fine. but then, would we be able to specify which season the rangers are from in the relationship tags? so, it would be: Heckyl/Kendall Morgan (Dino Charge)