Tagset Enquiries #2

[chocolateboxmod]

 Some more issues:

• The Vampire Diaries - L.J. Smith: Was this what you intended to nominate? There are some characters in this nomination that belong only in the TV series and some relationships are different between TV series and books.
• Star Wars: Before I merge all the relationships from the movies into a "Star Wars series (Movies)" tag, are there any relationships that belong to the EU?
• Stargate SG1 & Stargate Atlantis: Before I merge these into one overarching fandom, do you have a preference as to what I name the tag (as Stargate Universe would be rather confusing!)
• Tales of Symphonia: Emil Castagnier, Ratatosk and Richter Abend only appear in Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World. DId you want a more general tag of Tales of Symphonia series?
• Neon Genesis Evangelion: Which one? Maki Illustrious Makinami is a Rebuild character and the series are quite different. Do you want NG or Rebuild of Evangelion?
• Superman - AMT: Do you want All Media Types for Superman?
• Dragon Age: I am about to merge these categories into Dragon Age - All Media Types unless I hear otherwise.
• Les Misérables: I genuinely have no clue how to handle this. So far the book and AMT has been nominated. What would you like me to do?
• Fairy Tales & Related Fandoms: There does not seem to be any character combinations nominated here. Is that an error with the mod console or did you not nominate any character combos?
• Leo Fitz/Alphonso "Mack" Mackenzie: This has been nominated in MCU. Did you mean to nominate it in Agents of SHIELD?

I will be sorting out the MCU + related TV shows nominations over the next few hours, so while I'm in the mod console, what other things need fixing?

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I nominated Evangelion. I had Rebuild in mind. Thanks!

[chocolateboxmod]

No problem! That should be updated now.

[shadowsapiens]

Dragon Age - All Media Types sounds good to me! There's enough crossover of characters between games, books, etc. that AMT makes the most sense.

[chocolateboxmod]

Excellent. Now I just have to hope for someone nominating Iron Bull/Isabela/Everyone.

I can't lie, I would approve that because it's hilarious.

[jordannamorgan]

Just FYI, the one unassociated-characters tag on the list--"Jadzia Dax & Kang & Kor & Koloth"--is from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. The latter three characters were a trio of rowdy old Klingon warriors Dax was friends with.

(I'm strongly tempted to sign up... but a bit apprehensive because, at the moment, I see literally one relationship in one fandom that I might be up for doing.)

[chocolateboxmod]

No problem!

Nominations are still ongoing and will be until 11:59pm EST on 29 December, so you could always nominate the relationships you want to see.

[prettysophist]

Nominate some more that you are interested in! Just because no one has used any of their five spaces for your fav fandoms doesn't mean we wouldn't happily offer them if they appeared on the list! (And nominating characters doesn't commit you to a sign-up, anyway.)

[jordannamorgan]

Thanks. :) Yeah, I'll throw in some nominations and see what happens, though I'm a fan of some pretty rare pairings (even among other fans of my fandoms).

[prettysophist]

Oh, I see. I would still go for it, though. My favourite part of fests like this is stumbling across new pairings I never would have come up with on my own, and finding ways to make them work. The "Crossover Fandom" tagset (nominated by at least four people, none of them me) is making me very happy.

[badass_tiger]

Go for it anyway! My favourite ships for years have been rarepairs, and I still get lovely fics in exchanges. This year I got two fics for a ship I thought had literally no active fans except me in exchanges, and it was wonderful. In one of the exchanges I even immediately went up for pinch-hits because nobody initially offered to write my ship and I managed to get an amazing fic in the end anyway.

[jordannamorgan]

Awesome. :) Yeah, I've got my nominations in, so I'll see how things shape up when signups start. :)

[raininshadows]

Have you decided which way the Transformers nominations should go? I'm okay with either AMT or separate fandoms, but I'd like to know which to use. Thank you!

[chocolateboxmod]

It looks like it's been nominated as AMT, so I accepted it as AMT. I hope that helps!

[raininshadows]

Excellent! I'm glad to hear there's someone else who wants it. Thank you!

[gelsey]

Huh for the fairy tales, it must not have gone through somehow? However, I don't remember precisely what I put just now (no coffee, gasp!), so what if I go in and replace it with something else? So sorry it's caused issue.

[chocolateboxmod]

Oh, it's not a problem! You and someone else just nominated "Fairy Tales & Related Fandoms" without nominating any character combinations. As this exchange matches on character combinations there needs to be a combo in there. I haven't approved or rejected the nom yet, so you have time to go in there and add a gen or ship combo that you'd like to give or receive.

[gelsey]

I'm trying to edit it, but it doesn't want to accept it because "Owned tag set You have already submitted nominations for that tag set. Try editing them instead."

What should I do?

[chocolateboxmod]

Could you link me to your nomination? It's the link you can access by clicking "My Nominations" on the tag set screen.

[gelsey]

http://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/1055/nominations/33134

Here it is. I went here, went to edit, fixed it, pressed submit, and got that error.

[chocolateboxmod]

That is weird! Anyway, I can manually add characters, so which ships would you like for Fairy Tales?

[gelsey]

Story of my life, lol. Sorry it's being such a bother on my end.

Little Red Riding Hood/Big Bad Wolf
Little Red Riding Hood/Huntsman
Huntman/Little Red/Big Bad Wolf
Gretel/Hansel
Gretel & Hansel
Rapunzel/Prince
Frog Prince gen
Rapunzel gen

[chocolateboxmod]

In regard to your last two nominations, I can't nominate "gen". It has to be Frog Prince and someone else, and Rapunzel and someone else. Are you able to clarify that further?

[gelsey]

The Frog Prince/princesses
Rapunzel & family or Rapunzel & parents, if that works. If not, just disregard it. Thanks.

[chocolateboxmod]

No, those are fine! They're added now.

[(Anonymous)]

Nominator for Superman: AMT is all for "All Media Types," ta!

[chocolateboxmod]

No problem, that's approved!

[withinadream]

As one of the Les Mis nominators, I'd prefer All Media Types (there are lots of adaptations, and I can only think of one or two that would make a real difference in the relationships nominated).

[delta_dawn_rose]

There is a crossover ship (Lilly Kane/Dean Winchester) nominated in both Supernatural, and Veronica Mars (TV). Lilly belongs in Veronica Mars (TV), and Dean belongs in Supernatural. While I find the idea of this crossover delightful, the way it has been nominated could prevent someone unfamiliar with both fandoms from offering or requesting "any" (and Supernatural has 33 ships nominated).

[chocolateboxmod]

Yeah, it looks like they were nominated in one of the fandoms rather than as a crossover. I've moved it across now!

[(Anonymous)]

My nominations apparently got glitched- it looks like AO3 duplicated one of my fandoms + tags (Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones) wholesale so I'm short a whole fandom slot, plus a couple of the ships got duplicated. Is there anything that can be done about this?

[chocolateboxmod]

I can fix you up if you can link me to your nomination. You can find that by going to "My Nominations" on the tag set screen and then copying me that link here.

Also how would you like it fixed up?

Chuck Tingle & Son Name of Jon Fandom

[(Anonymous)]

This is probably the most embarrassing thing I've ever had to clarify, but I was really tired when I put in my last nomination and this fandom was actually supposed to be "Chuck Tingle RPF." 'Chuck Tingle & Son Name of Jon' is a pairing I wanted to nominate but I put it in the wrong box.

Chuck Tingle/Buck Trungle/Sentient Book and Chuck Tingle/Ted Cobbler were entered correctly, though.

Re: Chuck Tingle & Son Name of Jon Fandom

[chocolateboxmod]

That's been fixed up now! I was wondering about that (and also about the decided lack of velociraptor lawyers).

[(Anonymous)]

I nominated several other Symphonia pairings. I didn't nominate Emil, Ratatosk, or Richter, but I can at least confirm that their game is a direct sequel to the first one, so you're probably fine putting everyone under Tales of Symphonia if you don't hear anything from their nominator.

[chocolateboxmod]

I'll give them until the 29th, otherwise I'll merge the two.

[moontyger]

I apologize if I'm being particularly dense, but what is the difference between DCU and DCU (Comics)? I can't really tell from looking at the tag set, because I don't think some of these characters have appeared in anything other than the comics and cartoons, which both also appear to be separate?

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, DCU is possibly DCU All Media Types?

[moontyger]

Maybe, but in that case it seems oddly different from how other fandoms are being handled?

Anyway, the fact is that I was staring at the nomination form and feeling unsure where to put mine, so I thought it was best to ask to be sure I did it correctly.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the original nominator of the DCU fandom, and I meant it as DCU Comics. I've taken a look at the ship tags and I think DCU and DCU Comics can be merged. What other people think?

[chocolateboxmod]

I think DCU is a overarching metatag that AO3 has and sometimes imports into tag sets due to connections between the metatag and individual tags. I'm going to go through and break the associations between the individual combos and the DCU meta tag, but that's going to take a bit of time due to AO3 giving me errors a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

Mod, AO3 didn't accidentally import it, I did nominate it: http://postimg.org/image/w1nm1wr53

[(Anonymous)]

Hey there, I just noticed that in the tags for Merlin (TV) there's a nomination for Merlin & Gary "Eggsy" Unwin which I'm guessing should be under Kingsman.

[chocolateboxmod]

It could be a crossover ship too. I'll add it to the next post. Thanks!

[plaid_slytherin]

Just paging through some of my favorite fandoms and I noticed a couple of things:

Ail/An (Sailor Moon) (PGSM) - this shows up in Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon | Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, which appears to be what AO3 calls Sailor Moon in general, but "PGSM" is usually used to refer to the live-action television series in the early 2000s. The characters of Ail and An are unique to the 1990s anime series. All the other ships have (PGSM) as a disambiguation and thus, they presumably refer to the live-action show but Ail/An should probably be in a new 90s anime category.

Javert (Les Misérables)/Jack Aubrey (Aubrey-Maturin Series) - a crossover ship that appears in Les Misérables - Victor Hugo

ETA: And, since you asked a Les Mis question, just AMT is okay with me, too.

[chocolateboxmod]

Is there a name you would use for the Sailor Moon franchise as a whole?

Thank you for picking up the Javert/Aubrey crossover, and that's been migrated across!

[plaid_slytherin]

For the record, I didn't nominate Sailor Moon anything, I'm just a big fan and potential offerer.

I think this is a case where AMT would be difficult because each different continuity is a different thing that stands on its own from beginning to end, often with radically different characters and situations. The 90s anime and the recent anime Sailor Moon Crystal (the only bit that has its own title - everything else is officially just Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon) both adapt the manga, but the 90s anime made enough additions that a lot of characterization is radically different (the addition of Ail and An for one thing, who don't exist in any other continuity but a lot, lot more that would definitely matter to shippers). The live-action show (known by fans as PGSM, because this was the first time the new official English title of Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon was used) makes extreme departures in characterization and plot, and I wouldn't expect anyone who hadn't seen it to be able to write for it, or even want to. It's different from your typical adaptation situation where everything is basically the same.

So, as to what I would do, based on the tagset as it stands, I would make a new category for the 90s anime and put Ail/An in it (because they can't go anywhere else). Because of the disambiguation of PGSM that exists on all the other ships (plus the nature of those ships) I can guess the nominator of the other ships meant PGSM, but you may want to ask? Rei & Makoto, for example, screams PGSM to me because they have a special relationship in that; Jadeite & Nephrite probably does too because they never interacted in the 90s anime. The others strike me as more ambiguous but are probably PGSM if the nominator wrote that and not you.

AO3 has always been really weird about Sailor Moon. I hope this novel helped some.