Tagset Enquiries

[chocolateboxmod]

Some more issues arising out of the tagset:

•  Undertale/Utena and Undertale/Madoka ships - these are crossover ships and need to nominated as "Crossover Fandom". Please move your nominations for these crossover ships from Utena and Madoka to Crossover Fandoms.
• Persona 3 and Persona 4: There are some ships between P3 and P4 characters. I appreciate that there are a number of games that cross over the two, and P4 is a sequel to P3 - did you want me to merge these into a larger category? Otherwise the P3/4 ships will have to be nominated as "Crossover Fandom".
• The Vampire Diaries - L.J. Smith: Was this what you intended to nominate? There are some characters in this nomination that belong only in the TV series and some relationships are different between TV series and books
• Tales of Symphonia: Emil Castagnier, Ratatosk and Richter Abend only appear in Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World. DId you want a more general tag of Tales of Symphonia series?
• MASH: I have an enquiry about whether the nominator meant to nominate "Erin/Hunnicutt/B. J. Hunnicutt". Is the nominator able to confirm that this ship was what they wanted?
• Merlin & Gary "Eggsy" Unwin: Is this meant to be a crossover ship with Merlin from the TV series or meant to be Eggsy & Merlin (Kingsman)?
• Ba'al/Voldemort, and Hammond/McGonagall - these are crossover ships. Please nominate them under Crossover Fandom.

If you are interested in the MCU, there is a discussion post over here. I am particularly interested in how you would like me to deal with crossovers between the TV shows and movies.

Comments

[tjs_whatnot]

Sorry, for the MASH one, there is an extra / in there. It should be Erin Hunnicutt/B.J. Hunnicutt

[chocolateboxmod]

No prob, thanks!

[lynndyre]

I think technically the box set for both games was called 'Tales of Symphonia Chronicles', if you want an umbrella title?

Merlin & Eggsy is the Merlin from the Kingsman movie, not a crossover.

[chocolateboxmod]

Are you the nominator for Merlin & Eggsy? It was nominated under the Merlin TV show, so I would like to check to be absolutely sure.

Edit: Or at least that was how it came up on the mod console. There have been some weird results of late!

[lynndyre]

That's weird! I was the nominator, and definitely had it under Kingsman - I didn't have any MerlinTV noms.

[chocolateboxmod]

No problem! That's fixed up now. I only wish it was the weirdest error I had seen this week.

[zdenka]

Not directly related to these questions, but there's a lot of migration going on in the Tolkien nominations.

[chocolateboxmod]

I'm happy to fix them up, but I don't know where they would go. I've literally just been approving them as they were nominated as Tolkien is really not my forte. Are you able to tell me where each goes?

[zdenka]

Um . . . sort of. There are some that could validly go in more than one place. And they're all over the place in four different fandoms. I think you'll have to ask the nominators what they meant for at least some of them, but I'll give it a try. Hold on, this may take a little while. :)

[zdenka]

Tolkien issues part 1: The Hobbit - All Media Types

These are relationships which I think are misclassified under this fandom (and my best guess where they should go). The ones I've labelled "LOTR-books" involve at least one book-only character, but the nominator could still have nominated them under All Media Types -- it's up to them, obviously!

1. Ar-Pharazôn/Sauron | Mairon (Silmarillion)
2. Aragorn & Elrond (LOTR, AMT or books)
3. Aragorn/Arwen/Éowyn/Faramir (LOTR, AMT or books)
4. Arwen & Éowyn (LOTR, AMT or books)
5. Arwen/Éowyn (LOTR, AMT or books)
6. Arwen/Gilraen (LOTR-books)
7. Arwen/Goldberry (LOTR-books)
8. Arwen/Tauriel (Crossover fandom: LOTR, AMT or books/The Hobbit)
9. Aulë | Mahal & Sauron | Mairon (Silmarillion)
10. Celebrían/Elrond (LOTR-books)
11. Elladan/Elrohir (LOTR-books)
12. Elrond/Gil-galad (Silmarillion)
14. Galadriel | Artanis & Lúthien Tinúviel (Silmarillion)
15. Galadriel/Lúthien (Silmarillion)
16. Gimli/Legolas Greenleaf (LOTR, AMT or books)

(I hope other Tolkien fans will jump in here if I've made a mistake or if one of these is your nomination.)

[zdenka]

Tolkien issues part 2: The Lord of the Rings - All Media Types

1. Ar-Pharazôn/Sauron | Mairon (Silmarillion)
2. Arwen/Lírien (Rivendell Harp Girl)* [I don't know the movies well enough to remember whether the Rivendell Harp Girl was in LOTR or The Hobbit; possibly crossover fandom?]
3. Arwen/Tauriel (crossover fandom)
4. Aulë | Mahal & Sauron | Mairon (Silmarillion)
5. Bard of Laketown/Thranduil (Hobbit)
6. Elrond/Gil-galad (Silmarillion)
7. Elrond/Thranduil (This could be either LOTR or Hobbit--check with nominator?)
8. Galadriel | Artanis & Lúthien Tinúviel (Silmarillion)
9. Galadriel/Lúthien (Silmarillion)
10. Galadriel/Tauriel (Hobbit AMT)
11. Galadriel/Thranduil (This could be either LOTR or Hobbit--check with nominator?)
13. Legolas Greenleaf & Thranduil (This could be either LOTR or Hobbit--check with nominator?)
14. Legolas Greenleaf/Thranduil (This could be either LOTR or Hobbit--check with nominator?)
15. Sauron/Smaug (Hobbit)
16. Thranduil & Thranduil's Elk (Hobbit)
17. Thranduil/Thranduil's wife (probably Hobbit?)

[zdenka]

Tolkien issues, part 3: The Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien

1. Arwen/Lírien (Rivendell Harp Girl) (crossover or LOTR AMT)
2. Bilbo Baggins & Maglor (LoTR) (crossover)
3. Éowyn & Tar-Míriel (crossover)
4. Éowyn/Tar-Míriel (crossover)
5. Sam Gamgee & Maglor | Makalaurë (LotR) (crossover)
6. Ar-Pharazôn/Sauron | Mairon (Silmarillion)
7. Aredhel/Eöl (Tolkien) (Silmarillion)
8. Aredhel/Haleth the Hunter [This one confuses me because I thought Haleth the Hunter was the name for the former alternate version of Haleth who is male (as opposed to Silmarillion Haleth who is female. Check with the nominator? In any case, it's Silmarillion and not LOTR.]
9. Arwen/Tauriel (crossover)
10. Aulë | Mahal & Sauron | Mairon (Silmarillion)
11. Bard of Laketown/Thranduil (Hobbit)
12. Berúthiel/Original Female Character(s) (Silmarillion)
13. Bilbo Baggins/Bofur (Hobbit)
14. Bilbo Baggins/Bofur/Thorin Oakenshield (Hobbit)
15. Bilbo Baggins/Fíli (Hobbit)
16. Bilbo Baggins/Fíli/Kíli (Hobbit)
17. Bilbo Baggins/Nori (Hobbit)
18. Bilbo Baggins/Smaug (Hobbit)
19. Bilbo Baggins/Thorin Oakenshield (Hobbit)
20. Elrond/Gil-galad (Silmarillion)
21. Elrond/Thranduil (Could be Hobbit or LOTR--check with nominator?)
22. Fëanor | Curufinwë/Nerdanel (Silmarillion)
23. Fëanor | Curufinwë/Rúmil of Tirion (Silmarillion)
24. Galadriel | Artanis & Lúthien Tinúviel (Silmarillion)
25. Galadriel/Lúthien (Silmarillion)
26. Galadriel/Tauriel (Hobbit)
27. Galadriel/Thranduil (Could be Hobbit or LOTR--check with nominator?)
28. Gildor Inglorion/Maglor (crossover)
29. Glóin/Glóin's Wife (probably Hobbit? Check with nominator)
30. Goldberry/Nellas (Tolkien) (crossover)
31. Legolas Greenleaf & Tauriel (Hobbit)
32. Legolas Greenleaf & Thranduil (Could be Hobbit or LOTR--check with nominator?)
33. Legolas Greenleaf/Thranduil (Could be Hobbit or LOTR--check with nominator?)
34. Sauron/Smaug (Hobbit)
35. Thorin Oakenshield/Thranduil (Hobbit)
36. Thranduil & Thranduil's Elk (Hobbit)
37. Thranduil/Thranduil's wife (probably Hobbit? Check with nominator)

[zdenka]

Tolkien issues, part 4: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien

1. Haleth/Goldberry (crossover)
2. Mithrellas & Gilmith (could be Silmarillion or LOTR, check with nominator)
3. Aragorn & Elrond (LOTR-book or AMT)
4. Aredhel/Haleth the Hunter [In the correct place, but see note on this pairing in the last comment -- check with nominator to see if they meant Aredhel/Haleth?]
5. Bard of Laketown/Thranduil (Hobbit)
6. Bilbo Baggins/Thorin Oakenshield (Hobbit)
7. Celebrían/Elrond (LOTR books or AMT)
8. Elrond/Gandalf (could technically go under Silmarillion, but more likely Hobbit or LOTR-books or LOTR-AMT)
9. Elrond/Legolas Greenleaf (Hobbit or LOTR-books or LOTR-AMT)
10. Elrond/Thranduil (Hobbit or LOTR-books)
11. Galadriel/Gandalf (could technically go under Silmarillion, but more likely Hobbit or LOTR-books or LOTR-AMT)
12. Galadriel/Tauriel (Hobbit)
13. Galadriel/Thranduil (probably Hobbit but maybe LOTR books?)
14. Gildor Inglorion/Maglor (crossover)
15. Goldberry/Nellas (Tolkien) (crossover)
16. Legolas Greenleaf & Thranduil (Hobbit or LOTR-books)
17. Legolas Greenleaf/Thranduil (Hobbit or LOTR-books)
18. Mithrellas/Nimrodel (Could be Silmarillion or LOTR -- ask nominator?)
19. Sauron/Smaug (Hobbit)
20. Thorin Oakenshield/Thranduil (Hobbit)
21. Thranduil & Thranduil's Elk (Hobbit)
22. Thranduil/Thranduil's wife (probably Hobbit)

Okay, that's all of them, but my brain was getting a little fried by the end, and some of the characters could go in more than one place, so please check with another Tolkien fan and/or the nominators before adopting these wholesale. :)

[(Anonymous)]

Norma Bates/Caleb Calhoun is a fictional canon pairing so it should only be under 'Bates Motel (2013)' not also 'Bates Motel RPF.' (I don't know how that ended up there as I nominated Bates Motel RPF and only put Vera Farmiga/Freddie Highmore but tag drift or something I guess!)

[chocolateboxmod]

No problem, that should be fixed up now.

Persona

[(Anonymous)]

Other exchanges have merged Persona 3/4 as 'Persona Series' to allow for the crossover ships, because there are a bunch of sequel games (Persona 4 Arena, Persona Q) that involve the characters from both. I nommed a bunch of crossover ships and I'd be fine with them being under Persona Series, but if someone else objects I also don't mind if they end up listed under Crossover Fandom instead!

Re: Persona

[chocolateboxmod]

All right! Those are merged under Persona Series.